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lehrling-t

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<div class="bbWrapper">Hallo,<br /> <br /> mein Mac Book ist schon etwas älter und wird immer langsamer. Vielleicht kann mir hier jemand helfen. Ich habe EtreCheck durchlaufen lassen. Das ist das Ergebnis. Leider kann ich damit gar nichts anfangen. Kann mir jemand sagen was ich tun kann? Vielen Dank!!<br /> <br /> <div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--screenLimited bbCodeBlock--code"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> Code: </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content" dir="ltr"> <pre class="bbCodeCode" dir="ltr" data-xf-init="code-block" data-lang=""><code>EtreCheck version: 3.1.5 (343) Report generated 2016-12-27 21:52:45 Download EtreCheck from https://etrecheck.com Runtime 3:46 Performance: Good Click the [Support] links for help with non-Apple products. Click the [Details] links for more information about that line. Problem: Computer is too slow Hardware Information: ⓘ MacBook Pro (13-inch, Early 2011) [Technical Specifications] - [User Guide] - [Warranty &amp; Service] MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro8,1 1 2.3 GHz Intel Core i5 (i5-2415M) CPU: 2-core 4 GB RAM Upgradeable - [Instructions] BANK 0/DIMM0 2 GB DDR3 1333 MHz ok BANK 1/DIMM0 2 GB DDR3 1333 MHz ok Bluetooth: Old - Handoff/Airdrop2 not supported Wireless: en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n Battery: Health = Normal - Cycle count = 593 Video Information: ⓘ Intel HD Graphics 3000 - VRAM: 384 MB Color LCD 1280 x 800 System Software: ⓘ OS X Mavericks 10.9.5 (13F1911) - Time since boot: about 17 days Disk Information: ⓘ Hitachi HTS545032B9A302 disk0 : (320,07 GB) (Rotational) [Show SMART report] EFI (disk0s1) &lt;not mounted&gt; : 210 MB Macintosh HD (disk0s2) / [Startup]: 319.21 GB (97.55 GB free) Recovery HD (disk0s3) &lt;not mounted&gt; [Recovery]: 650 MB MATSHITADVD-R UJ-898 () USB Information: ⓘ Apple Inc. BRCM2070 Hub Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in) Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver Thunderbolt Information: ⓘ Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus Configuration files: ⓘ /etc/hosts - Count: 20 Gatekeeper: ⓘ Mac App Store and identified developers System Launch Agents: ⓘ [not loaded] 5 Apple tasks [loaded] 140 Apple tasks [running] 39 Apple tasks System Launch Daemons: ⓘ [not loaded] 50 Apple tasks [loaded] 139 Apple tasks [running] 59 Apple tasks Launch Agents: ⓘ [not loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist (2014-03-07) [Support] [running] com.adobe.AdobeCreativeCloud.plist (2014-03-07) [Support] [loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist (2016-08-24) [Support] Launch Daemons: ⓘ [loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist (2016-12-11) [Support] [loaded] com.google.keystone.daemon.plist (2016-09-02) [Support] [loaded] com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist (2011-03-10) [Support] User Launch Agents: ⓘ [loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist (2014-03-07) [Support] [not loaded] com.spotify.webhelper.plist (2015-07-24) [Support] User Login Items: ⓘ iTunesHelper Programm Hidden (2016-12-27) (/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper.app) Dropbox Programm (/Applications/Dropbox.app) DVDAuthorizeHelper Programm (~/Library/Application Support/Helper/DVDAuthorizeHelper.app) Photo Stream URL SMLoginItem (2013-12-27) (/Applications/iPhoto.app/Contents/Library/LoginItems/PhotoStreamAgent.app) Internet Plug-ins: ⓘ o1dbrowserplugin: 5.41.3.0 - SDK 10.8 (2015-12-16) [Support] Default Browser: 537 - SDK 10.9 (2014-11-18) net.juniper.DSSafariExtensions: Unknown (2014-06-04) [Support] AdobeAAMDetect: AdobeAAMDetect 2.0.0.0 - SDK 10.7 (2014-03-07) [Support] FlashPlayer-10.6: 24.0.0.186 - SDK 10.9 (2016-12-13) [Support] Silverlight: 5.1.41212.0 - SDK 10.6 (2016-04-19) [Support] QuickTime Plugin: 7.7.3 (2016-07-19) Flash Player: 24.0.0.186 - SDK 10.9 (2016-12-13) [Support] googletalkbrowserplugin: 5.41.3.0 - SDK 10.8 (2015-12-11) [Support] NP_2020Player_IKEA: 5.0.94.1 - SDK 10.6 (2012-09-28) [Support] SharePointBrowserPlugin: 14.4.7 - SDK 10.6 (2014-12-30) [Support] NP_2020Player_IKEA 2: 5.0.94.1 - SDK 10.6 (2012-09-28) [Support] JavaAppletPlugin: 14.9.0 - SDK 10.7 (2011-12-04) Check version User internet Plug-ins: ⓘ Picasa: 1.0 (2011-03-28) [Support] Safari Extensions: ⓘ Open in Internet Explorer - Parallels - http://www.parallels.com (2013-12-27) 3rd Party Preference Panes: ⓘ Flash Player (2016-12-11) [Support] Time Machine: ⓘ Time Machine not configured! Top Processes by CPU: ⓘ 35% mdworker(4) 4% com.apple.WebKit.WebContent(19) 3% WindowServer 2% kernel_task 1% fontd Top Processes by Memory: ⓘ 877 MB com.apple.WebKit.WebContent(19) 431 MB kernel_task 123 MB Finder 53 MB Safari 41 MB WindowServer Virtual Memory Information: ⓘ 560 MB Available RAM 13 MB Free RAM 3.45 GB Used RAM 547 MB Cached files 137 MB Swap Used</code></pre> </div> </div></div>
 
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frizzo

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<div class="bbWrapper">sowas solltest du eigentlich<br /> <br /> <ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">in den richtigen Thread posten</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">den EtreCheck-Log mit den Code-Tags posten</li> </ol><br /> grüße!<br /> <br /> <br /> FlashPlayer und Java sind nicht zu empfehlen<br /> Ansonsten kein Plan ob du das IKEA Plugin zB noch brauchst!?<br /> <br /> Grundsätzlich sieht das aber denke ich nicht Sio schlecht aus... auch EtreCheck sagt dass die Performance &quot;Good&quot; is</div>
 

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<div class="bbWrapper">Nach 17 Tagen Betrieb schadet auch ein Neustert nicht. In der Momentaufnahme zum Zeitpunkt von Etrecheck war Spotlight sehr aktiv, vielleicht gibt es da ein Problem, aber erstmal einen geordneten Neustert probieren</div>
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 205765" data-quote="lehrling-t" data-source="post: 5021151" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=5021151" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-5021151">lehrling-t schrieb:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Time Machine not configured! </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Zum Vergrößern anklicken....</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Hast du mittlerweile ein Backup deiner Daten ?<br /> <br /> Im Logfile sehe ich keine und im Logfile von 2015 wurde es dir bereits gesagt, wie man sie Logs. postet.<br /> Angesehen davon, dass damals keine Rückmeldung kam.<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/threads/macbook-pro-ist-extrem-langsam-geworden-was-tun.485998/" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/threads/macbook-pro-ist-extrem-langsam-geworden-was-tun.485998/</a></div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 159705" data-quote="raven" data-source="post: 5021166" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=5021166" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-5021166">raven schrieb:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Angesehen davon, dass damals keine Rückmeldung kam. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Zum Vergrößern anklicken....</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Haha suchst du auch Beiträge in der Vergangenheit vom User oder was!? <img src="/community/styles/apfeltalk/smilies/Smiling Face.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-shortname=":D" /> Du Starker <img src="/community/styles/apfeltalk/smilies/Smiling Face.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-shortname=":D" /><br /> Wird sich schon erledigt haben das Problem und jetzt doch etwas schlimmer geworden sein <img src="/community/styles/apfeltalk/smilies/Smiling Face.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-shortname=":D" /><br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 122637" data-quote="mafri" data-source="post: 5021165" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=5021165" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-5021165">mafri schrieb:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Nach 17 Tagen Betrieb schadet auch ein Neustert nicht. In der Momentaufnahme zum Zeitpunkt von Etrecheck war Spotlight sehr aktiv, vielleicht gibt es da ein Problem, aber erstmal einen geordneten Neustert probieren </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Zum Vergrößern anklicken....</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Ach aber will nicht wissen wie lange ich mein MacBook oder iMac nicht neu gestartet hab und da wird auch nichts langsamer.... und meines &quot;Wissens&quot; ist das gesamte macOS auch eher so konzipiert dass ein kompletter Neustart nicht wirklich erforderlich ist weil sich das System mehr oder weniger selbst bereinigt... wenn das falsch ist darf man mich gerne korrigieren!?</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper">Hast du gar kein Backup?<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 205765" data-quote="lehrling-t" data-source="post: 5021151" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=5021151" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-5021151">lehrling-t schrieb:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> /etc/hosts - Count: 20 </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Zum Vergrößern anklicken....</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Hast du selbst an der Datei /etc/hosts etwas verändert? 20 Einträge kommt mir seltsam vor.<br /> <br /> Ich würde außerdem mal die SMART-Werte der Festplatte prüfen: <a href="https://www.volitans-software.com/apps/smart-utility/" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">https://www.volitans-software.com/apps/smart-utility/</a> (Free Trial)</div>
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><b>Hallo Liebe Community,<br /> <br /> Ich bin ganz neu hier und wäre sehr dankbar, wenn mir jemand einen Tip geben könnte ob es eine software gibt die die Performance relativ unkompliziert wieder auf Touren bringt. Habe verschiedene Sachen probiert aber leider ohne Erfolg...<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> EtreCheck version: 3.4.4 (448)</b><br /> <br /> <b>Report generated 2017-09-03 18:26:02</b><br /> <br /> <b>Download EtreCheck from </b><a href="https://etrecheck.com" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>https://etrecheck.com</b></a><br /> <br /> <b>Runtime: 15:56</b><br /> <br /> <b>Performance: Poor</b><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Click the <b>[Lookup]</b> links for more information from Apple Support Communities.<br /> <br /> Click the <b>[Details]</b> links for more information about that line.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <b>Problem: </b>Computer is too slow<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/hardware" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>Hardware Information:</b></a> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/hardware" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">ⓘ</a><br /> <br /> MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2010) <br /> <br /> <a href="http://support-sp.apple.com/sp/index?page=cpuspec&amp;cc=ATM&amp;lang=en" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Technical Specifications]</b></a> - <a href="http://support-sp.apple.com/sp/index?page=cpuuserguides&amp;cc=ATM&amp;lang=en" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[User Guide]</b></a> - <a href="https://support.apple.com/de-de/mac-notebooks/repair/service" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Warranty &amp; Service]</b></a><br /> <br /> MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro7,1<br /> <br /> 1 2,4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo (Duo) CPU: 2-core<br /> <br /> 4 GB RAM Upgradeable - <a href="http://support-sp.apple.com/sp/index?page=cpumemory&amp;cc=ATM&amp;lang=en" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Instructions]</b></a><br /> <br /> BANK 0/DIMM0<br /> <br /> 2 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok<br /> <br /> BANK 1/DIMM0<br /> <br /> 2 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok<br /> <br /> Handoff/Airdrop2: not supported<br /> <br /> Wireless: en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n<br /> <br /> Battery: Health = Normal - Cycle count = 24<br /> <br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/video" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>Video Information:</b></a> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/video" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">ⓘ</a><br /> <br /> NVIDIA GeForce 320M - VRAM: 256 MB<br /> <br /> Color LCD 1280 x 800<br /> <br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/disk" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>Disk Information:</b></a> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/disk" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">ⓘ</a><br /> <br /> Hitachi HTS545025B9SA02 disk0: (250,06 GB) (Rotational)<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://smart/disk0" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b> [Show SMART report]</b></a><br /> <br /> (disk0s1) &lt;not mounted&gt; [EFI]: 210 MB<br /> <br /> Macintosh HD (disk0s2 - Journaled HFS+) / [Startup]: 249.20 GB (64.40 GB free)<br /> <br /> (disk0s3) &lt;not mounted&gt; [Recovery]: 650 MB<br /> <br /> <br /> MATSHITADVD-R UJ-898 ()<br /> <br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/usb" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>USB Information:</b></a> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/usb" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">ⓘ</a><br /> <br /> USB20Bus <br /> <br /> Apple Card Reader <br /> <br /> USB20Bus <br /> <br /> Apple Inc. Built-in iSight <br /> <br /> USBBus <br /> <br /> USBBus <br /> <br /> Apple Inc. BRCM2046 Hub <br /> <br /> Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller <br /> <br /> Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver <br /> <br /> Apple Inc. 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link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>Kernel Extensions:</b></a> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/kernelextensions" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">ⓘ</a><br /> <br /> <b> /Library/Extensions</b><br /> <br /> [not loaded] org.cindori.TrimEnabler (1.0 - SDK 10.10) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=org.cindori.TrimEnabler&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <b> /Library/StartupItems/NetBarrier</b><br /> <br /> [not loaded] com.intego.kext.AppBarrier (10.4) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.intego.kext.AppBarrier&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" 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href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.intego.nke.NetBarrier&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <b> /Library/StartupItems/VirusBarrier</b><br /> <br /> [not loaded] com.intego.iokit.VirusBarrierService (1396) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.intego.iokit.VirusBarrierService&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> [not loaded] com.intego.kext.VirusBarrier_1694 (10.1.5) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.intego.kext.VirusBarrier_1694&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <b> /System/Library/Extensions</b><br /> <br /> [not loaded] com.Huawei.driver.HuaweiDataCardDriver (4.0.6) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.Huawei.driver.HuaweiDataCardDriver&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> [not loaded] com.intego.driver.IntegoSocketFilterManager (1.0) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.intego.driver.IntegoSocketFilterManager&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/startupitems" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>Startup Items:</b></a> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/startupitems" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">ⓘ</a><br /> <br /> HWNetMgr: Path: /Library/StartupItems/HWNetMgr<br /> <br /> NetBarrier: Path: /Library/StartupItems/NetBarrier<br /> <br /> Personal Antispam: Path: /Library/StartupItems/Personal Antispam<br /> <br /> ProTec6: Path: /Library/StartupItems/ProTec6<br /> <br /> ProTec6b: Path: /Library/StartupItems/ProTec6b<br /> <br /> VirusBarrier: Path: /Library/StartupItems/VirusBarrier<br /> <br /> Startup items no longer function in OS X Yosemite or later<br /> <br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/systemlaunchagents" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>System Launch Agents:</b></a> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/systemlaunchagents" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">ⓘ</a><br /> <br /> <b> [not loaded] </b>9 Apple tasks<br /> <br /> <b> [loaded] </b>161 Apple tasks<br /> <br /> <b> [running] </b>69 Apple tasks<br /> <br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/systemlaunchdaemons" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>System Launch Daemons:</b></a> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/systemlaunchdaemons" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">ⓘ</a><br /> <br /> <b> [not loaded] </b>47 Apple tasks<br /> <br /> <b> [loaded] </b>160 Apple tasks<br /> <br /> <b> [running] </b>83 Apple tasks<br /> <br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/launchagents" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>Launch Agents:</b></a> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/launchagents" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">ⓘ</a><br /> <br /> <b> [not loaded] </b>com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist (? ffb65062 4a5b0246 - installed 2011-04-26) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> <b> [running] </b>com.avg.update-agent.plist (AVG Technologies CZ, s.r.o. - installed 2017-09-02) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.avg.update-agent&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> <b> [loaded] </b>com.avg.userinit.plist (Shell Script 59a6db8e - installed 2017-09-02) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.avg.userinit&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> <b> [running] </b>com.intego.netupdate.agent.plist (? 1aa0d7b9 97185b3f - installed 2014-06-16) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.intego.netupdate.agent&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> <b> [loaded] </b>com.intego.task.manager.notifier.plist (? 421440ce a4f7d413 - installed 2010-09-05) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.intego.task.manager.notifier&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> <b> [loaded] </b>com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist (? 415b1dc0 be93c7fb - installed 2017-06-08) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.oracle.java.Java-Updater&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/launchdaemons" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>Launch Daemons:</b></a> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/launchdaemons" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">ⓘ</a><br /> <br /> <b> [running] </b>NkPtpEnumWT3.plist (? e1e57193 61a958a6 - installed 2016-01-20) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=NkPtpEnumWT3&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> <b> [loaded] </b>com.adobe.fpsaud.plist (? 2afb3af7 85012398 - installed 2017-07-25) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.adobe.fpsaud&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> <b> [loaded] </b>com.avg.init.plist (Shell Script d34ba41 - installed 2017-09-02) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.avg.init&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> <b> [loaded] </b>com.avg.uninstall.plist (Shell Script ced238bd - installed 2017-09-02) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.avg.uninstall&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> <b> [failed] </b>com.avg.update.plist (Shell Script 7a885bf0 - installed 2017-09-02) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.avg.update&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> <b> [running] </b>com.intego.commonservices.daemon.plist (? 873630a2 c40886af - installed 2009-08-12) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.intego.commonservices.daemon&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> <b> [loaded] </b>com.intego.commonservices.icalserver.plist (? d4ed509f 14f01b8b - installed 2009-11-09) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.intego.commonservices.icalserver&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> <b> [running] </b>com.intego.netupdate.daemon.plist (INTEGO - installed 2013-09-10) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.intego.netupdate.daemon&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> <b> [running] </b>com.intego.task.manager.daemon.plist (? 3eb46967 36d5f4e0 - installed 2009-08-10) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.intego.task.manager.daemon&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> <b> [loaded] </b>com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool.plist (Shell Script e3fefdd2 - installed 2017-03-15) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/userlaunchagents" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>User Launch Agents:</b></a> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/userlaunchagents" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">ⓘ</a><br /> <br /> <b> [loaded] </b>com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist (? 6a3cceca 4a5b0246 - installed 2011-04-26) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> <b> [running] </b>com.akamai.single-user-client.plist (? 4fac4d4e 6a3689c4 - installed 2017-05-05) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.akamai.single-user-client&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> <b> [loaded] </b>com.avg.home.userinit.plist (Shell Script 3eba11c3 - installed 2017-09-02) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.avg.home.userinit&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> <b> [loaded] </b>com.google.keystone.agent.plist (Google, Inc. - installed 2017-07-10) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.google.keystone.agent&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/loginitems" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>User Login Items:</b></a> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/loginitems" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">ⓘ</a><br /> <br /> AirPort-Basisstation-Agent Programm - Hidden <br /> <br /> (/System/Library/CoreServices/AirPort Base Station Agent.app)<br /> <br /> Launch Nikon Message Center 2 Programm - Hidden <br /> <br /> (/Applications/Nikon Software/Nikon Message Center 2/Nikon Message Center 2.app/Contents/SharedSupport/Launch Nikon Message Center 2.app)<br /> <br /> IntegoStatusItemHelper Programm - Hidden <br /> <br /> (/Library/Intego/IntegoStatusItem.bundle/Contents/Resources/IntegoStatusItemHelper.app)<br /> <br /> HP Scheduler Programm - Hidden <br /> <br /> (/Library/Application Support/Hewlett-Packard/Software Update/HP Scheduler.app)<br /> <br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/internetplugins" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>Internet Plug-ins:</b></a> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/internetplugins" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">ⓘ</a><br /> <br /> iPhotoPhotocast: 7.0 (installed 2011-12-23)<br /> <br /> FlashPlayer-10.6: 26.0.0.151 (installed 2017-08-11) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.macromedia.FlashPlayer-10.6.plugin&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> QuickTime Plugin: 7.7.3 (installed 2017-08-31)<br /> <br /> Flash Player: 26.0.0.151 (installed 2017-08-11) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.macromedia.Flash%20Player.plugin&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> AdobePDFViewer: 8.1.0 (installed 2008-05-17) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.adobe.acrobat.pdfviewer&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> Default Browser: 601 (installed 2016-08-11)<br /> <br /> JavaAppletPlugin: Java 8 Update 131 build 11 (installed 2017-06-08) <a href="https://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>Check version</b></a><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/preferencepanes" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>3rd Party Preference Panes:</b></a> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/preferencepanes" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">ⓘ</a><br /> <br /> Akamai NetSession Preferences (installed 2017-05-05) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.yourcompany.AkamaiNetSession&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> Flash Player (installed 2017-07-25) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.adobe.flashplayerpreferences&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> Java (installed 2017-03-15) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.oracle.java.JavaControlPanel&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> NetUpdate (installed 2014-06-16) <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?type=discussion&amp;showAnsweredFirst=true&amp;q=com.intego.preference.netupdate&amp;sort=updatedDesc&amp;currentPage=1&amp;includeResultCount=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Lookup]</b></a><br /> <br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/timemachine" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>Time Machine:</b></a> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/timemachine" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">ⓘ</a><br /> <br /> Skip System Files: NO<br /> <br /> Auto backup: NO - Auto backup turned off<br /> <br /> Volumes being backed up:<br /> <br /> Macintosh HD: Disk size: 249.20 GB Disk used: 184.80 GB<br /> <br /> Destinations:<br /> <br /> Data [Network] <br /> <br /> Total size: 0 B <br /> <br /> Total number of backups: 0 <br /> <br /> Oldest backup: - <br /> <br /> Last backup: - <br /> <br /> Size of backup disk: Too small<br /> <br /> Backup size 0 B &lt; (Disk used 184.80 GB X 3)<br /> <br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/cpu" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>Top Processes by CPU:</b></a> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/cpu" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">ⓘ</a><br /> <br /> 6% kernel_task<br /> <br /> 5% Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 4<br /> <br /> 2% WindowServer<br /> <br /> 1% Adobe Photoshop Elements<br /> <br /> 0% loginwindow<br /> <br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/memory" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>Top Processes by Memory:</b></a> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/memory" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">ⓘ</a><br /> <br /> 414 MB kernel_task<br /> <br /> 258 MB mds_stores<br /> <br /> 223 MB com.apple.WebKit.WebContent<br /> <br /> 223 MB Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 4<br /> <br /> 101 MB Finder<br /> <br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/energy" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>Top Processes by Energy Use:</b></a> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/energy" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">ⓘ</a><br /> <br /> 7.34 WindowServer<br /> <br /> 6.40 Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 4<br /> <br /> 2.28 hidd<br /> <br /> 0.92 spindump<br /> <br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/vm" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>Virtual Memory Information:</b></a> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/vm" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">ⓘ</a><br /> <br /> 1.55 GB Available RAM<br /> <br /> 79 MB Free RAM<br /> <br /> 2.45 GB Used RAM<br /> <br /> 1.47 GB Cached files<br /> <br /> 7 MB Swap Used<br /> <br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/install" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>Software installs:</b></a> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/install" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">ⓘ</a><br /> <br /> Adobe Flash Player: (installed 2017-08-11)<br /> <br /> Steuererklärung: 2.7.1 (installed 2017-08-31)<br /> <br /> Dr. Cleaner: 3.2.1 (installed 2017-08-31)<br /> <br /> AVG AntiVirus: 17.2 (installed 2017-09-02)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Install information may not be complete.<br /> <br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/diagnostics" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>Diagnostics Information:</b></a> <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://help/diagnostics" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">ⓘ</a><br /> <br /> <b> 2017-09-03 12:00:51 Last shutdown cause: -60 - Corrupt filesystem</b><br /> <br /> 2017-09-02 23:48:03 Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 4.app Hang <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://open/2FFAC6D8-CF72-4B14-97CC-57B57E07EAB6" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Open]</b></a><br /> <br /> 2017-09-01 22:34:47 Photos.app High CPU use <a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://open/E3DA730E-04BA-48D6-B7D1-9E6C05467876" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><b>[Open]</b></a> <b><a href="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/etrecheck://detail/Photos.app" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">[Details]</a></b></div>
 

Macbeatnik

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<div class="bbWrapper">Das Dateisystem ist defekt, eventuell lässt sich das mittels des Festplatten Dienstprogramm reparieren. <br /> Interessant wäre auch der Smart Report. Dafür in etrecheck direkt unter der Festplatte auf Smart Report klicken. <br /> Du hast 2 schadprogramm auf dem Rechner, intego und avg, die werden sich bestimmt bekriegen, sofern sie nicht auch alleine schon Probleme bereiten. Dr.Cleaner ist auch eher ein Bestatter für das System.</div>
 

raven

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<div class="bbWrapper"><a href="https://test.apfeltalk.de/community/members/223585/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="223585" data-username="@Saphir">@Saphir</a> Willkommen im Forum.<br /> <br /> Ausser AVG und Cleaner hast du auch noch Virus Barrier installiert. Das ganze Zeug muss runter.<br /> <br /> P.S Ups, <a href="https://test.apfeltalk.de/community/members/187/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="187" data-username="@Macbeatnik">@Macbeatnik</a> war schneller.</div>
 
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Saphir

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<div class="bbWrapper">Ihr seid klasse! Aber leichter gesagt wie getan...gibt es ein Programm wie ich das herunter bekomme oder wie soll ich diese Dinger herausoperieren?</div>
 

Saphir

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<div class="bbWrapper">voila:<br /> <a href="https://test.apfeltalk.de/community/attachments/bildschirmfoto-2017-09-03-um-20-43-00-png.144933/" target="_blank"><img src="https://www.apfeltalk.de/community/data/attachments/110/110292-7b2980bdc50a45a63b308cf6ea712810.jpg" class="bbImage " style="" alt="Bildschirmfoto 2017-09-03 um 20.43.00.png" title="Bildschirmfoto 2017-09-03 um 20.43.00.png" width="250" height="201" loading="lazy" /></a></div>
 

doc_holleday

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 223585" data-quote="Saphir" data-source="post: 5122706" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=5122706" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-5122706">Saphir schrieb:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> oder wie soll ich diese Dinger herausoperieren </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Zum Vergrößern anklicken....</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Erster Anlaufpunkt ist die Anleitung des Herstellers.<br /> <br /> Programme, die versprechen das für ich zu tun, halten oft ihr Versprechen nicht.</div>